the intercalary month; he ate it during the second tithes in
Jerusalem; he ate of a carcass and of things torn, abominable things and
creeping things; he ate of that which had not paid tithes, and the first
tithes before the heave-offering was separated from them and the second
tithes and holy things which were not redeemed; he ate of a thing which is
commanded, and of a thing which is a transgression; he ate every kind of
meat, but he did not eat flesh; he drank every kind of fluid, but he did
not drink wine?" "He is not a son stubborn and rebellious till he eat
flesh and drink wine," as is said, "A glutton and a drunkard";(406) and
even though there is no conclusive evidence, there is a memorial to the
matter, as is said, "Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of
flesh."(407)

3. "If he steal it from his father, and eat it (with permission) on the
property of his father; from others, and eat it on the property of others;
from others, and eat it on the property of his father?" "He is not a son
stubborn and rebellious till he steal it from his father and eat it on the
property of others." R. Jose, the son of R. Judah, said, "till he steal it
from his father and from his mother."

4. "If his father desires (his punishment), and his mother does not desire
it; his father does not desire it, and his mother does desire it?" "He is
not declared a son stubborn and rebellious until both of them desire it."
R. Judah said, "if his mother was not suitable for his father, he is not
declared a son stubborn and rebellious." "One of them was broken-handed,
or lame, or dumb, or blind, or deaf?" "He is not declared a son stubborn
and rebellious," as is said, " 'Then shall his father and his mother lay
hold on him,'(408) which is impossible if they be broken-handed; 'and
bring him out,' which is impossible if they be lame; 'and they shall say,'
which is impossible if they be dumb; 'this our son,' which is impossible
if they be blind; 'he will not obey our voice,' which is impossible if
they be deaf. They must warn him before three judges, and then flog him."
"He returned to his bad habits?" "He is to be judged before twenty-three
judges, but he is not to be stoned till the three first (judges) are
present, as is said, 'this our son' who was flogged before you." "He ran
away before his judgment was finished, and afterward came to puberty?" "He
is free." "But if he ran away after the decision and then came to
puberty?" "He is gui