10. "The enticer to idolatry?" "This ordinary man enticed an ordinary man;
he said to him, 'there is an object of fear in such a place, so it eats,
so it drinks, so it does good, so it does evil.' " Of all who are guilty
of death in the law, we are not to set witnesses in concealment to convict
them, except in this case of an enticer to idolatry. When he has spoken of
his idolatry to two persons, they as witnesses bring him to the
judgment-hall, and stone him. If he spoke thus to one, this one replies,
"I have companions who desire to hear so and so." "If he be cunning, and
he does not speak before them?" "Witnesses are concealed behind a wall,
and he says to the idolater, 'tell me what thou saidst to me alone,' and
the idolater told him. And he replied to him, 'how can we leave our God,
who is in heaven, and go and serve wood and stone?' " "If the idolater
returned from his sin, it is well; but if he said, 'so is our duty, and so
it is excellent for us,' they who stood behind the wall bring him to the
judgment-hall, and stone him; if he said, 'I shall serve, I shall go and
serve, let us go and serve; I will sacrifice, I will go and sacrifice, let
us go and sacrifice; I will burn incense, I will go and burn incense, let
us go and burn incense; I will pour a libation, I will go and pour a
libation, let us go and pour a libation; I will bow down, I will go and
bow down, let us go and bow down'--the withdrawer is he who says, 'let us
go and serve idols.' "

11. The sorcerer, who has done the act, is guilty of death, but he is not
guilty who merely deludes the eyes. R. Akiba said in the name of R.
Joshua, "two sorcerers can gather cucumbers--one gathers them and is free,
but another gathers them and is guilty. He who has performed the act is
guilty. He who has merely deluded the eyes is free."

Chapter VIII

1. A son stubborn and rebellious.(405) "From what time is he decidedly a
son stubborn and rebellious?" "From the time the two hairs have come, and
up to the time the beard has sprouted; but the Sages spoke in modest
language. As is usually said, when a man has a son--a son, but not a
daughter; a son, but not a man; a child as yet free from coming under the
rule of the commandments."

2. "From what time is he guilty?" "From the time he ate three-quarters of
a pound of flesh, and drank half a log of Italian wine." R. Jose said, "a
pound of flesh and a log of wine." "He ate it in an appointed feast; he
ate it in