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cient sap to slip. Mr. Street: Would you put it on the top or bottom side of the limb? Mr. Philips: I would put it on the upper side of the limb every time, but I would put it a little further from the trunk of the tree than I would to graft for the reason, if the bud fails you have two chances, and you have that same limb to cut off and graft next year. [Illustration: Winesap apples top-worked on Peerless, grown at Northfield, Minn.] Mr. Johnson: I want to ask if it has a tendency to make the apple any earlier? Virginia crab is an early bloomer, and would grafting it with Wealthy make it bloom earlier? Mr. Philips: I hardly think so. I think it is a great deal as it was with the man that had the boots. Some told him his boots would wear longer if he greased them, and some one else told him they would wear longer if he did not. So he greased one and not the other, and the one that he greased wore fifteen minutes longer than the other. (Laughter.) I don't think it makes much difference. I tell you what it does do. You graft a McMahon onto a Virginia and instead of having the McMahon its usual color, you will get a very nice blush on it. Mr. Erkel: Is the Duchess a good stock to graft onto? Mr. Philips: I haven't found it very good. It is hardly vigorous enough for a stock. Mr. Erkel: You mentioned Patten's Greening a few minutes ago. Isn't that considered a rather short-lived tree? Mr. Philips: Not with me it hasn't been. I set some thirty years ago. I never had a Patten's Greening injured with the cold. It is very hardy. Mr. Street: How about the Brier's Sweet crab? I grafted some last year and had a larger percentage of the scions live on those than on the Hibernal. Mr. Philips: You wouldn't get as good a growth afterwards. The scions on the Virginia would grow better and have a better top. I don't think the Brier's Sweet is as vigorous as Virginia. Mr. M'Clelland: I grafted on 120 Hibernals this spring and got hardly one failure. Mr. Philips: You did good work. Mr. M'Clelland: Made a growth of three to four feet, some of them. Mr. Philips: That is good. Mr. M'Clelland: Have you anything as good? Mr. Philips: If I had Hibernals I would graft them, but if I had to set something on purpose for grafting I would set Virginias. I have had better success with that variety for stocks. Mr. Kellogg: Too big a growth on the graft is liable to be injured in the winter, is it not? Mr. Ph
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