t varieties of
the Carpathians that are not going to go over because of the faults that
I have mentioned. I should say, too, that we do not know how widely a
variety is going to be adapted to different climates. If we select
rigidly for good, outstanding varieties that bear good nuts and good,
vigorous trees, we won't get too many.

MR. CHASE: That was one point I wanted brought out, that we are now just
in the preliminary stage of this Carpathian variety selection business.
Of the selections made some have been made by default, because there
weren't enough of other samples to compete with. On the other hand, the
several we have we all consider outstanding in some respect, or other,
and are of value as a beginning provided we bear in mind that we haven't
scratched the surface on Carpathian walnuts yet.

MR. STOKE: And let's not confine ourselves to Carpathian walnuts,
because Hanson is not Carpathian walnut, and that's an excellent nut.

MR. CHASE: Mr. Stoke, what is going to be NNGA's policy in trying to
give recommendations for the planting of Carpathian or Persian walnuts?
In other words, does it make any real difference whether it's a
Carpathian or whether it is not, as long as it has proved hardy and of
good quality?

MR. STOKE: We are dealing with Persian walnuts, and Carpathian happens
to be one class of Persian, and Broadview happens to be a Persian that
came from Russia, and Lancaster is one that came from somewhere in
Europe and landed up in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. I would emphasize the
name Persian as the over all name. The Carpathian is merely a Persian
walnut which has been brought from the Carpathian mountains of Poland.

MR. BECKER: Last summer a group of nut growers went to Lee Sommers',
which is in the central part of Michigan. In the invitation to our nut
growers I said, "This is the only pure Carpathian orchard we know in
Michigan." That didn't set well with some of them and they took issue
with me. In answering this issue, I said that Mr. Sommers had planted
Carpathian Persian walnut seed that came from Poland direct. Many of us
have a mixture. Even Mr. Shessler has the Hanson and Jacobs and a number
of others. If he sells you seed, you are going to get it mixed. In a few
years we will have a job keeping pure Carpathian.

DR. MACDANIELS: Isn't it a matter of straight terminology? _Juglans
Regia_ is the Persian walnut. Carpathians are a regional strain of
_Juglans Regia_.

MR. CHASE: I think