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scussions in secret, "and when we did commence," said Throgmorton, "we did bid the servants of the house go out, and likewise our own servants, because we thought it not convenient that they should hear us speak of such matters."--Throgmorton to the King: _MS. State Paper Office._ [356] 23 Hen. VIII. cap. 20. [357] Printed in STRYPE, _Eccles. Mem._, vol. i. p. 201. Strype, knowing nothing of the first answer, and perceiving in the second an allusion to one preceding, has supposed that this answer followed the third and last, and was in fact a retractation of it. All obscurity is removed when the three replies are arranged in their legitimate order. [358] STRYPE, _Eccles. Mem._, vol. i. p. 199, etc. [359] 23 Hen. VIII. cap. 20. [360] STOW, p. 562. [361] "In connection with the Annates Act, the question of appeals to Rome had been discussed in the present session. Sir George Throgmorton had spoken on the papal side, and in his subsequent confession he mentioned a remarkable interview which he had had with More. "After I had reasoned to the Bill of Appeals," he said, "Sir Thomas More, then being chancellor, sent for me to come and speak with him in the parliament chamber. And when I came to him he was in a little chamber within the parliament chamber, where, as I remember, stood an altar, or a thing like unto an altar, whereupon he did lean and, as I do think, the same time the Bishop of Bath was talking with him. And then he said this to me, I am very glad to hear the good report that goeth of you, and that ye be so good a Catholic man as ye be. And if ye do continue in the same way that ye begin, and be not afraid to say your conscience, ye shall deserve great reward of God, and thanks of the King's Grace at length, and much worship to yourself."--Throgmorton to the King: _MS. State Paper Office_. [362] In part of it he speaks in his own person. Vide supra, cap. 3. [363] BURNET'S _Collectanea_, p. 435. [364] Note of the Revelations of Elizabeth Barton: _Rolls House MS._ [365] It has been thought that the Tudor princes and their ministers carried out the spy system to an iniquitous extent,--that it was the great instrument of their Machiavellian policy, introduced by Cromwell, and afterwards developed by Cecil and Walsingham. That both Cromwell and Walsingham availed themselves of secret information, is unquestionable,--as I think it is also unquestionable that they would have betrayed the interests
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