joy anything I had said.
The editor did a wise thing and catered to a large majority of his
readers. I do not think that we have as religious a daily paper
in New York as the _Times-Herald_. So the editor of the _Times-
Herald_ took the ground that men with little learning, in youth,
might be agnostic, but as they grew sensible they would become
orthodox. When he wrote that he was probably thinking of Humboldt
and Darwin, of Huxley and Haeckel. May be Herbert Spencer was in
his mind, but I think that he must have been thinking of a few boys
in his native village.

_Question_. What do you think about prize-fighting anyway?

_Answer_. Well, I think that prize-fighting is worse, if possible,
than revival meetings. Next to fighting to kill, as they did in
the old Roman days, I think the modern prize-fight is the most
disgusting and degrading of exhibitions. All fights, whether cock-
fights, bull-fights or pugilistic encounters, are practiced and
enjoyed only by savages. No matter what office they hold, what
wealth or education they have, they are simply savages. Under no
possible circumstances would I witness a prize-fight or a bull-
fight or a dog-fight. The Marquis of Queensbury was once at my
house, and I found his opinions were the same as mine. Everyone
thinks that he had something to do with the sport of prize-fighting,
but he did not, except to make some rules once for a college boxing
contest. He told me that he never saw but one prize-fight in his
life, and that it made him sick.

_Question_. How are you on the arbitration treaty?

_Answer_. I am for it with all my heart. I have read it, and read
it with care, and to me it seems absolutely fair. England and
America should set an example to the world. The English-speaking
people have reason enough and sense enough, I hope, to settle their
differences by argument--by reason. Let us get the wild beast out
of us. Two great nations like England and America appealing to
force, arguing with shot and shell! What is education worth? Is
what we call civilization a sham? Yes, I believe in peace, in
arbitration, in settling disputes like reasonable, human beings.
All that war can do is to determine who is the stronger. It throws
no light on any question, addresses no argument. There is a point
to a bayonet, but no logic. After the war is over the victory does
not tell which nation was right. Civilized men take their differences
to courts or arb