ld have also seen the picture St. Sebastian in the Cathedral, and he
said:

"In France there is some good painting, and the King of France has many
palaces and pleasure houses with innumerable paintings, both in
Fontainebleau, where the king kept together two hundred painters, well
paid, for a certain time; and in Madrid, the pleasure house which he
built, where he voluntarily imprisons himself at times, in memory of
Madrid in Spain where he was a prisoner."

"I think," said M. Lactancio, "that I heard a while ago Francisco
d'Ollanda name amongst paintings the tomb that you, Senhor Michael,
sculptured in marble; but I do not understand how sculpture can be called
painting."

Then I began to laugh heartily, and begging permission of the Master,
said:

"To save Senhor Michael trouble I will reply to Senhor Lactancio
concerning this doubt of his, which has followed me here from my own
country.

"As you will find that all the employments which have most art and
reasonableness and grace are those which most nearly approach the drawing
or painting, so those which most nearly approach it proceed from it and
are a part or member of it, such as sculpture or statuary, which is
nothing else but painting itself, although it may well appear to some to
be a separate art; it is, however, condemned to serve painting, its
mistress.

"And this I will give as a sufficient proof (as your Excellencies well
know), that in the books we find Phidias and Praxiteles called painters,
whilst it is certain that they were sculptors in marble, seeing that the
statues from their hands in stone are here near us, on this hill, the
horses which they made, which King Teridade sent to Nero as a present, for
which reason in recent times this place is called Monte Cavallo. And
should this not be enough, I will add how Donatello (who, with the
permission of Master Michael, was one of the first modern ones who in
sculpture merited fame and name in Italy) never said anything else to his
pupils, when teaching them, but draw, telling them in a single word of
doctrine: 'Pupils, I give you the whole art of sculpture when I tell
you--_draw!_' And so Pomponio Gaurico, sculptor, also affirms in the book
he wrote 'De Re Statuaria.' But why do I seek examples and proofs afar,
when perchance they are near me? And so as not to speak of myself, I say
the great draughtsman, M. Angelo, who is here, also sculptures in marble,
which is not his art, and better even (if