cent from run-of-mine nuts, he doubtless will be willing to pay a
considerable premium for the better nuts if he can get them. But unless
the good nuts are in considerable quantity they go right in with the
others and no more will be paid for them. That's my point of view. I
don't want to express my particular opinion, because I have no
particular opinion. But you might consider both, the commercial nut, and
the home nut.

I think we might vote and determine what action, to take tonight as to
setting up a standard, or if you want to set up a double standard.

Mr. Weber: Mr. Mullins does get a better price for a larger kernel. He
separates them and treats them differently than the general run of small
pieces. It's been my observation that the cracking machines do a
remarkably good job with the ordinary run of seedling nuts. Kenneth Dick
gets the kernels out in rather large pieces, and from what we saw up at
Mullins' place he gets the same thing. He sifts out the larger pieces
and gets a better price for them. So the preference is for the larger
pieces. It's like buying hamburger; you prefer your hamburger ground up
out of larger pieces rather than odds and ends that the butcher has
around the shop and grinds it up and hands it to you.

Mr. Stoke: But isn't it true that he sells the kernels in two separate
classes?

Mr. Weber: But the preference still seems to be, after we see them, for
the larger pieces. They have better kernels; otherwise, they would break
up in small pieces.

Mr. Korn: I believe that as long as there are very few commercial
orchards, we should approach it from the angle of the people who have
just a few pet nut trees around their yards, because I don't think the
commercial orchards of the improved grafted black walnuts are going to
be large enough to color the picture very much for a few years to come.
As long as they haven't been too profitable, I think it is going to be
some time before we have to worry much about commercial orchards.
Therefore, we are interested in getting a superior product in kernel; it
has to be large, has to be of good color and good flavor. It seems to me
that would be one of the first things to consider. Then, if orchards get
more plentiful and profitable, we can take up the other angle.

Mr. Chase: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a few remarks on this business
of commercial cracking and large pieces that I hear mentioned by my good
friend, Mr. Weber. I had hoped to have