t of
hand. There are many people in the United States that like the flavor of
black walnut kernels to eat in this way. I know I am one of them, and I
don't want to eat crumbs. I don't want to eat small pieces. I like to
have at least quarters.

I think that if we were to gather from the status of our other native
nut industry that there is going to be a premium paid for the larger
pieces, then cracking quality _would_ enter into the matter. Our pecans
are sold on count of whole kernels per pound or per ounce. Almonds are
sold the same way. Walnuts the same way--that is, Persian or English
walnuts. The number of kernels or pieces per pound is an important
matter, notwithstanding the situation as it exists in the black walnuts
today. So I do think that we can't take the present status of the
industry as one which will prevail generally and in the future.

Mr. Weber: Would the majority report favor the side of the home consumer
rather than the commercial buyer?

Dr. MacDaniels: I think it depends on what Mr. Stoke would think about
the majority. We didn't get a chance to get together, because Mr. Stoke
was so busy with exhibits.

Mr. Weber: We might end by moving the adoption of the majority report
and let it get at that.

Mr. Stoke: I know I brought up that matter of whether we should judge by
standards acceptable to the commercial buyer or to the ultimate
consumer. The confectioner doesn't care about the size or color at all.
When they are put up in candy or in chocolate cookies, color doesn't
mean anything. It's a black walnut, and it doesn't have to depend on
anything else. So I think those two points of view are pertinent.

I never expressed any preference, and I don't know that I have any. I
think it might be just as well to leave that up to this body. But the
producer, or those anticipating producing must be considered. Mr.
Hirschi can give us the word on marketing kernels.

Mr. Hirschi: I do not market kernels. I just crack the nuts and sell
them by the pound cracked.

Dr. MacDaniels: Shell and all?

Mr. Hirschi: Shells and all. I sold about a ton and a half each winter
for the last four or five winters. They are Thomas walnuts. I get 35
cents a pound with the horse shoe nail in the package.

Mr. Stoke: That man wants good color, good flavor, kernels easy to pick
out, and of good size. That goes with the retail buyer. If the
commercial buyer gets 30 per cent kernels from good nuts compared with
15 per