Wintersteen: Yes, sir.

Mr. Moore: What variety do you raise?

Mr. Wintersteen: The Wakefield, generally.

Mr. Moore: Some varieties of cabbages are not nearly so severely
attacked as others. I think of the two that they would prefer radishes
probably. Growing them side by side you find they infest the radishes.
That was my experience last year. I grew the first generation of
cabbages, and the second generation I took over into the radishes
because I wanted to treat them there.

Mr. Rasmussen: Did you say the same fly attacks the onion and the
cabbage?

Mr. Moore: The onion has two different flies, one which is black in
color, with light colored bands across the wings, and that one passes
the winter as a larva in the old onions left in the field. It is an
injurious practice to leave old onions there to breed these maggots. If
they were taken out and destroyed you could do away with that one. The
cabbage fly is different. When you use the spray it would probably be
all right to use the sodium arsenite for the onion and the lead arsenate
for the cabbage. The type of leaf is entirely different, and on the
cabbage you are apt to burn them with the sodium arsenite while the lead
arsenate will give you practically the same result.

Mr. Goudy: The cabbage butterfly, does that come from the same maggot?

Mr. Moore: No; this maggot is on the root, the cabbage butterfly lays
its eggs on the leaf. You get the cabbage worm from the cabbage
butterfly.

Mr. Goudy: What do you do for that?

Mr. Moore: Paris green is used to a great extent, but many people have a
horror of using Paris green. Last year, I think it was, I was called up
on the phone by some one and I advised him to use Paris green. He said
that he was afraid it might poison everybody. I explained to him there
was no danger from it, as you know the cabbage leaves grow from the
inside, not from the outside, and the spray would be on the outside
leaves. Besides that, we usually spray early for the cabbage worm while
the heads come on later.

Mr. Goudy: Did you ever try capsicum, sprinkling that on the heads?

Mr. Moore: No, sir.

Mr. Goudy: I saved my cabbages one year by using that.

Mr. Moore: Some people claim salt is good. One of the students mentioned
it to me. One applied it by putting a spoonful around over the head,
another dissolved a tablespoonful in about ten quarts of water and
sprayed it on. Salt is rather injurious to vegetation as a rule. Of