sir; I had. I took some out. I had five in the gun and I had
six with me in my pocket.

Q. Did they find those?

A. They have got it in the police station.

Q. They have got those cartridges in the police station. Now, who hit
your arm--did somebody hit your arm?

A. I don't think so.

Q. When you were coming--who was the first man to get hold of you--that
great big man?

A. I could not say who it was. I simply shot and I don't know whether I
hit the man or not or whom I hit, but I know the first thing I went
down and a whole lot on top.

Q. When you aimed the revolver at Roosevelt was there anybody standing
on each side of you?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you stick the gun between the heads of two people?

A. Yes.

Q. Did you say any word?

A. No, sir.

Q. When you fired?

A. No, sir; I said nothing.

Q. Talk---- Did you try to pull the trigger again?

A. No, sir.

Q. You were knocked down before you could pull it again?

A. Yes, sir; I was.

Q. You would have pulled it again?

A. Perhaps I would. I don't know.

Q. Well, now in your grip have you any literature--any papers?

A. I have a book in there, yes, a memorandum book.

Q. Did you have any newspapers which you carried about--did you cut out
clippings out of the newspapers?

A. Oh no, no. I didn't do it.

Q. Did you have any record that Col. Roosevelt that you cut out of his
acts when he was commissioner of police?

A. Oh no, no. You think I'd carry that here, if I wanted to carry that
with me ever since 1893 when he was commissioner--you are crazy or I
must have a whole book.

Q. Well, did you keep any?

A. No, sir; nothing at all. I didn't take that much interest.

Q. How do you mean, you didn't take that much interest?

A. I didn't feel that way about him then when he was police
commissioner.

Q. When did you first commence to feel that way?

A. I felt it in Chicago.

Q. That was the first time?

A. The first time, yes, sir.

Q. When was that?

A. In fact, the first time I felt against him was when I had that dream
against him the time McKinley died and then I thought I really could
not believe in dreams, I could not go to work and shoot a man down
because all dreams don't come true.

Q. When was that?

A. That was the same night or the evening that Mr. McKinley died.

Q. How long did you feel that way about it?

A. I felt about it. Well, have at least two weeks.

Q. Did you see Col. Roosevelt at that time?

A.