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eplorable and his circumstances extremely straitened. Interviewer: Mrs. Bernice Bowden Person interviewed: John H. Smith 2602 W. Twelfth Street, Pine Bluff, Arkansas Age: 81 "I reckon I was here, I member seein' the smoke from the guns look like a cloud. "I was born in Missouri in 1856. I member _way_ back. Yes'm. I'm old--I'm _old_. "I member seein' the soldiers--Yankees--eight or ten in a squad and they asked me did I want to ride with em? Old mistress say, 'That's my boy!' I member way back when they used to put the folks upon a block and sell em. I member one night we was in the cabin and the Ku Klux come up on horses. And I member when they was hollerin' peace was declared. "Mama told me I was born in 1856. Mama had all our ages in that big Bible. "We stayed in St. Louis six years then we went to Chrystal City. Missouri and I went to the glass factory and went to work. "Did I vote? Me? Yes'm, I voted many a time--Republican. I'm still a Republican--always will be I reckon. I haven't voted for a long time but I think everybody ought to have the liberty to vote. "I like to live in the North better cause the white folks treats you better. They treats me all right here cause I don't do nothin'. "I member my white folks was good to me. "I went to school after the war whar I was born. C.N. Douglas, the son of Napoleon Douglas, was my teacher. First teacher we had was Miss Mary Strotter. I know she couldn't learn us anything so they got C.N. Douglas. He brought that paddle with the little holes and he learned us something. I know my sister was next to me and she couldn't get her spelling and I'd work my mouf so she could see. C.N. Douglas caught me at it and he whipped me that day. I never worked my mouf again. "I was the best speller in the school. I won a gold pen and ink stand and George Washington picture. "Before the war I member the overseer would say, 'If you don't have that done tonight, I'll whip you tomorrow.' They had one man was pretty bad and I know they give him a thimble and a barrel and told him he had to fill up that barrel, but he couldn't do it you know and so they whipped him. "Mama used to whip me. She called me the 'Devil's Egg Bag' for a long time. I used to take a darning needle and punch the eyes out of guineas or chickens just to see em run around. She broke me of that. I know now she never whip me enough, but she made a man of me. I got
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