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a while.'" To Johnnie--"Did he take the lecture business seriously?" "No. He just wanted five minutes on the porch when he would talk to no one but the kids." Mr. O'Grady: "He said once, 'What I like about notes is that when once you begin you can completely disregard them.' He stood for the first lecture but mostly he sat. He enjoyed a joke so much, and they enjoyed his enjoyment." Mr. Engels: "For the first lecture he stood--part of him stood behind a little rostrum, after that he sat at a big table." Father Leo R. Ward was at Oxford when he debated "That the Law is a Hass" and was amazed at the way the undergraduates adored him. "His opponent begged them not to vote for G.K. at this critical moment in the world's history. They cheered G.K. but voted against him to make the other fellow feel good." Sister Madeleva: "What did he do for recreation?" Johnnie: "He did a lot of--sketching I guess you'd call it--and he'd read the papers." Sister Madeleva: "Did he like the campus?" Johnnie: "Very much." "Did he ever go down to the Grotto?" Johnnie: "He seen it but he never got out of the car." "Was it hard for him to walk?" Johnnie: "No, he could walk kinda fast, but it was so hard for him to get in or out of the car." "Where did he go to church?" Johnnie: "He came here to Notre Dame. He was close to 400 lbs. but he'd never give it away. He'd break an ordinary scale, I guess. I brought him under the main building, he got stuck in the door of the car. Father O'Donnell tried to help. Mr. Chesterton said it reminded him of an old Irishwoman: 'Why don't you get out sideways?' 'I have no sideways.'" To the debate with Darrow, Frances Taylor Patterson had gone a little uneasy lest Chesterton's arguments "might seem somewhat literary in comparison with the trained scientific mind and rapier tongue of the famous trial lawyer." She found however that both trained mind and rapier tongue were the property of G.K.C. I have never heard Mr. Darrow alone, but taken relatively, when that relativity is to Chesterton, he appears positively muddle headed. As Chesterton summed it up, he felt as if Darrow had been arguing all afternoon with his fundamentalist aunt, and simply kept sparring with a dummy of his own mental making. When something went wrong with the microphone, Darrow sat back until it could be
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