r independence, for they would have their two exits to the
Indian Ocean and to the Atlantic, and could still remain British."

"Probably Cape Town would look askance at any proposal to establish a
port at Mossamedes?" said the interviewer.

"Yes," replied Mr Stanley, "but Rhodesia does not belong to the Cape,
and what is good for its prosperity must be considered apart from Cape
Town, and, as Rhodesia thrives so long as it is connected with the Cape,
the latter will always profit by it. Tourists will prefer to go to Cape
Town because there they will be among Englishmen instead of Portuguese,
but goods would go to Mossamedes and thus cut off five days in transit."

BLACK AND WHITE.

"Do you think the black men in South Africa are likely to disappear as
the whites increase?"

"No," replied Mr Stanley, "I do not think they will. There are now so
many wedges of white population between the native territories that any
native movement can at once be checked. I see abundance of hope in that
direction for the prevention of any federation of the natives such as
used to be tried in the early days of the American Colonies. There the
cause was want of communication, with an enormous area covered by
Indians and only a few scattered settlements of whites, but in South
Africa you have nothing of that kind. The natives will all be wanted.
There are certain things that they alone can do, such as working in the
open air in the summer. The white men are the makers of money, and the
natives must naturally be the hewers of wood and drawers of water."

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