s: This doesn't really need any tying, as it is large.

The Chairman: Would you carry the patch around to the other side?

Mr. Jones: No sir, just fill it up with wax.

The Chairman: And the juice runs out of there and will escape anyway.

Mr. Jones: Yes sir.

A Member: Do you wax in addition to the paper you put on?

Mr. Jones: We don't wax the scion all over. We used to take hot wax and
run a thin layer over the whole scion, but we quit that and used the
bag, because if you wax over a scion tight and it happens to have
sufficient moisture, it will start growth with that moisture before it
makes the union.

Prof. Smith: Do you wax the tip end?

Mr. Jones: Yes sir.

Prof. Smith: Do you wax this in here?

Mr. Jones: Yes sir; we fill that over with liquid wax. It is possible to
have your wax too hot, and burn the scion.

Prof. Smith: Have you found that all the species of hickory take grafts
with equal ease?

Mr. Jones: We grafted some here last spring that started very nicely and
then died. I don't know whether it was in the hickory stock or whether
they were robbed by the sprouts; we didn't pull off any sprouts. There's
a whole lot of things we don't know about grafting yet, but will know
more in time.

The Chairman: How about using scion wood more than one year old?

Mr. Jones: We prefer two or three year old wood for the scion. We have
coming now, 3,000 walnut scions from California and they are all to be
two and three years old. I have put in rows of 100 with large two year
scions and you could count 100 and not find one dead among them and some
of the scions were almost as big as my wrist. It's a job to cut them.
You see that scion, being large, has enough vitality to hold it until it
can make a union.

A Member: You want one bud on this?

Mr. Jones: We generally have two buds.

A Member: Do you use the same method on the Persian walnut?

Mr. Jones: Yes sir; we got a little stingy one year and cut these all to
one bud and hardly got any out of them. You've got to have wood enough
to hold the scions dormant; of course there may be one or more buds on
the scion.

The Chairman: And got to have food enough in them.

Mr. Jones: Yes sir. Col. Sober grafts chestnuts that way, but I have
never been able to graft pecans and walnuts with very short scions.

The Chairman: I have caught chestnuts with one bud, but most of the nut
trees want more food and you've got to have a lot in the scion.

Prof.